2 of my guppies got sucked into the filter :(

Discussion in 'Aquatic Health/Diseases' started by CarpCharacin, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I looked into my 20 gallon tank and I just realized that 2 of my guppies got sucked into the filter and both of them were dead. I am not sure if they were sick before they got sucked in. They were either guppies or mosquito fish. RIP :(
     
  2. piranha

    piranha Neon tetra Member

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    Did you take pictures?
     
  3. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    No.
     
  4. piranha

    piranha Neon tetra Member

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    Why not?
     
  5. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I don't know. I found the fish dead and I threw them away. I am sad that they died :(
     
  6. piranha

    piranha Neon tetra Member

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    Take pictures next time.
     
  7. Ozzy47

    Ozzy47 German blue ram Fish guru

    Of dead fish, why?
     
  8. piranha

    piranha Neon tetra Member

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    To post on the site, silly, so we can see what happened.
     
  9. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I know what happened. They got sucked into the filter!
     
  10. piranha

    piranha Neon tetra Member

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    How/Why, isn't there a filter or something?
     
  11. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    Fish can't live without a filter. Of course they have a filter.
     
  12. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    I was always told by the people who run the aquarium shop I use, that if a fish has got sucked onto the filter, it was almost certainly already dead when that happened. It wasn't the act of being sucked onto the filter that caused it.
     
  13. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I have had fish get killed because they got sucked into the filter in the past, but that is definitely a possibility.
     
  14. piranha

    piranha Neon tetra Member

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    What is a possibility? How do they get sucked in?
     
  15. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    The possibility is, they die (or become really weak through illness or injury) elsewhere in the tank, and are then pulled into the filter like any other bit of debris.
     
  16. Angelphish

    Angelphish Bolivian ram Well-known Member

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    If a fish gets sucked onto the filter, then they died before. If a fish gets sucked into the filter, then that could kill it.
     
  17. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    That's true. I'm thinking more of 'onto' than 'into'. Certainly with mine, there's no way they could get sucked INTO it, as none of my fish are that tiny.
     
  18. Angelphish

    Angelphish Bolivian ram Well-known Member

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    Into is always a possibility. I ran a HOB with no intake guard when I was a beginner... Never doing that again...
     
  19. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I found another fish sucked on to the filter intake. Nothing appears to be physically wrong with them. It was the same tank that got cloudy. The algae in the tank has turned kind of a brownish color. I am going to add some safe. I still need to do a water change on it and the rest of my tanks.
     
  20. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    I would be changing about 30% of that straight away, and then a further 10% every day for a week. See if that clears it.
     
  21. Ozzy47

    Ozzy47 German blue ram Fish guru

    Same thing I told him over a week ago, but he ignored this advice and continues to throw chemicals in the aquarium. Go figure.
     
  22. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    What did I do?
     
  23. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    Well I would proffer that the fish found on the filter had already died due to the poor water quality.

    I'd further proffer that more fish are going to die unless you start the water changes.

    Really Carp, you're purporting to run an fishkeeping forum which means you'd be expected to know something about the subject, or if you don't at least be prepared to listen. You need to change the water. You need to change it right now. Yet instead you're sat on TAZ arguing with people trying to give you advice. Get off your ??? and go and change the water! There's nothing more to be said.
     
  24. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I am going too today.
     
  25. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    Great...change about 30% today. Let us know how it goes. Photograph it and upload before and after if you can.
     
  26. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I am going to water changes on the other tanks too.
     
  27. Scrotnig

    Scrotnig Celestial pearl danio New member

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    Good...get to it then! Post back when it's all done. They don't take very long once you get started.

    Thinking about it, I need to do mine today actually. I'll get to it as well. I have only one tank and the fish seem amazingly healthy considering I'm no expert and probably get a lot of stuff wrong. Two of my gouramies are now about six years old, which I'm quite impressed by, especially considering 18 months ago I moved house and completely changed to a brand new tank. They are remarkably resilient, I thought that would kill them off.
     
  28. GTB

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    Could be high levels of ammonia or nitrites building up in tank because a water change is needed. No use keep adding chemicals in the water all the time. You need keep on top of those water changes all the time, and you should also be checking now and then if your filter media might need a bit of a rinse to get rid any decaying debris causing high level as well if using a mechanical internal type box, or external cylinder type filter.
     
  29. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I am not using just any chemicals. I am using SeaChem Safe.
     
  30. Professor_fish

    Professor_fish German blue ram Fish guru

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    The best test for chemicals to add is this.......Would you drink it at the recommended amount in a glass of water? if you wont then dont add it ;). If you would then nothing we say is going to help you lol
     
  31. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I trust seachem safe. I would drink the reccomended amount in as long as the water wasn't out of my fish tank.
     
  32. Professor_fish

    Professor_fish German blue ram Fish guru

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    still trust it?

    wouldnt let me upload the patent? can you up the file size?
     

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  33. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    Yes.

    The file size is 3 mb. The upload appears to have worked.
     
  34. Professor_fish

    Professor_fish German blue ram Fish guru

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    you read the patent and trust it to drink?
     
  35. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    The patent is like pages long. I swear I am going to drink some RIGHT NOW. I am not lying.
     
  36. Professor_fish

    Professor_fish German blue ram Fish guru

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    Tetra is the one to get ;)
     

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  37. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    I use seachem safe.

    I drank some water and it tasted fine.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2016
  38. Professor_fish

    Professor_fish German blue ram Fish guru

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    The one you have is roughly 50% sodium formaldehydebisulfite and salt
     
  39. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Rainbow cichlid Administrator Fish mentor

    Is that bad for me?

    I found 2 more of the fish dead :( They are all over a year old so it could be old age.
     
  40. Professor_fish

    Professor_fish German blue ram Fish guru

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    yes but it is made by API! i hope you didnt drink it, it dosnt contain much ingredient but the chemical is not good for you.
     

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