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We are going to get some supplies to start building the fish shed. My plan is to have four 40 breeders, a plywood stingray tank, a tank for a frontosa colony and a 55 gallon electric blue hap tank. I have all of the 40s and the 55. I am super excited about this. I plan to get a breeding pair of discus once the shed is built.
 

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If my Discus start breeding before this is done, I could hook you up with some of the best Discus that come out my batch. Probably like really cheap too. Since you know we're cool.
 

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If my Discus start breeding before this is done, I could hook you up with some of the best Discus that come out my batch. Probably like really cheap too. Since you know we're cool.
If I have a place to put them, I might want some. I am going to start breeding discus myself. I have 2 more 40s that I got at the petco dollar per gallon sale just recently, and once I get a breeding pair I will keep the pair in the top tank and raise the fry in the bottom tank.
And I think I might do this, except more of a renovation of my current shed. It's a pretty good idea.
If your shed isn't insulated, you may want to insulate your shed before you start putting tanks in it. I am going to insulate my shed with fiberglass, so hopefully the tanks will heat the shed in the winter but I am still going to have an electric oil radiator or 2 out there to keep it warm in the winter if the tanks aren't enough.
 

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If I have a place to put them, I might want some. I am going to start breeding discus myself. I have 2 more 40s that I got at the petco dollar per gallon sale just recently, and once I get a breeding pair I will keep the pair in the top tank and raise the fry in the bottom tank.

If your shed isn't insulated, you may want to insulate your shed before you start putting tanks in it. I am going to insulate my shed with fiberglass, so hopefully the tanks will heat the shed in the winter but I am still going to have an electric oil radiator or 2 out there to keep it warm in the winter if the tanks aren't enough.
Did you forget that I live in Louisiana? Our Winters don't get cold at all. All I will need is a fan in the shed to keep it kinda cool and I could set up my tanks normally with no problems.
 

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Did you forget that I live in Louisiana? Our Winters don't get cold at all. All I will need is a fan in the shed to keep it kinda cool and I could set up my tanks normally with no problems.
So it doesn't snow? I am going to use an evaporative cooler to cool my shed in the summer. It will fry my fish if I don't.
 

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It hasn't snowed here in years. It does get somewhat cold, but my shed is always so hot that it doesn't affect much.
 

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It also gets very hot, but not that hot, just extremely Humid. The coldest it'll probably get in my shed is like 50-60 maybe?

Fahrenheit by the way.
 

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It will get down to like 15 degrees fahrenheit in the shed if I don't heat it. I am going to use an evaporative cooler that makes the air more humid and that cools it. It has a shredded wood pad that it pumps water over and then pulls air through into the shed. It will keep the shed cool in the summer.
 

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Now that I am going to breed Vieja synspila, I am starting to seriously reconsider building the shed. In it, I plan to have a 300 gallon Rubbermaid stock tank with a 75 gallon stock tank to act as a sump, and two 40 gallon breeders. How big do you think I should make the shed @Angelphish ? I MAY be able to work in it this weekend if I'm lucky.
 

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Now that I am going to breed Vieja synspila, I am starting to seriously reconsider building the shed. In it, I plan to have a 300 gallon Rubbermaid stock tank with a 75 gallon stock tank to act as a sump, and two 40 gallon breeders. How big do you think I should make the shed @Angelphish ? I MAY be able to work in it this weekend if I'm lucky.
Maybe 15x15 to give you a good amount of walking space. If you can look for deals on craigslist. You may be able to find a 300 for $500 or less, and a 75g for even less. I bought the 75 I used for a sump off craigslist for $25. You could probably find just as good of a deal on craigslist if you look hard enough.

Try to breed Hoplarchus Psittacus instead of Vieja Synspilum. They sell for more, and are a lot rarer. If you were to breed them, you would likely be the only person your lfs could buy them from locally. Fry could sell for $30-50 at 3".
 

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I haven't decided, but I'll try to find a breeding pair of Hoplarchus psittacus once the shed is build. If I can't, I'll stick with vieja synspilum.
If you can't find a pair of Hoplarchus (which you likely won't be able to), you could buy 6 and sell the others once a pair forms.
 

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But I get attached to my fish, I wouldn't want to sell the others :p.
You're almost guaranteed to one pair from six fish, but you could get lucky and have two or possibly even three. If you do get 2-3 pairs, you could dived the 300 so it could hold 2 pairs, and put the other 2 fish in a 180.
 

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You may want to try oscura heterospila then. Should be easier to breed with just as big of a demand.
There is hardly any information about that species available. Remember, I have never bred cichlids before. I don't want to breed something that's super rare, or super hard to breed.
 

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Then you don't make super good profit.
By super rare, I mean something that has literally no information about it. I do NOT want to breed a fish that rare. I like vieja synspila, would I make profit breeding those. I may or may not be moving, so I am going to hold of building the shed for a little while.
 

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By super rare, I mean something that has literally no information about it. I do NOT want to breed a fish that rare. I like vieja synspila, would I make profit breeding those. I may or may not be moving, so I am going to hold of building the shed for a little while.
There's plenty of info on Oscura Heterospila. Stiphodon Annieae is a fish with no info. There's a big difference between the two when you google them.

Another option would be a rare species of vieja. Synspilum are the most common, and care for the other species is identical.
 
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